Many Christians in the 2nd to the 4th centuries, and many since, have read the famous opening of the gospel according to John like this: In the beginning [i.e. at the Genesis creation, but not necessarily before] was the Word [i.e. the pre-human Jesus], and the Word was with God [i.e. the Father], and the Word was divine. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being. Is “the Word” here really the man Jesus, before he was a man? This view seems to be reinforced by a few passages in Paul, and Hebrews 1, which seem to say that Jesus created the cosmos, that is, that God created the cosmos through him. This makes the Genesis creation a two-agent affair. The view also holds Jesus to be an additional divine being in some sense, but not in the same sense that the Father is divine, as he, but not Jesus, is the ultimate source of all else, and exists independently of any other being. In today’s episode I talk with Mr. Danny Andre Dixon, a former minister and youth minister and life-long student of the Bible, who defends this view in The Son of God: Three Views of the Identity of Jesus. His view is there called “Arian” for its similarities to the views of the controversial Alexandrian presbyter Arius, a controversy about which led to the famous council at Nicea. Similar views were held by Justin Martyr and other “two-stage” logos theorists in the 2nd and 3rd Christian centuries, and aside from the point that there was a time when the Son didn’t exist, it is similar to the views of those called “Eusebians” in the fourth century. You can also listen to this episode on Stitcher or iTunes (please subscribe, rate, and review us in either or both – directions here). It is also available on YouTube (you can subscribe here). If you would like to upload audio feedback for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast, put the audio file here. You can support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com after clicking through one of our links. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is not increased. (If you see “trinities” in you url while at Amazon, then we’ll get it.) Links for this episode: relevant trinities podcast episodes and blog posts podcast 29 – Arius podcast 30 – The Council of Nicea Worship and Revelation 4-5 Who Should Christians Worship? podcast 13 – On Bauckham’s Bargain podcast 74 – Justin Martyr’s Dialogue with Trypho – Part 1 Roy Lanier, The Timeless Trinity Anthony Buzzard and Charles Bunting, The Trinity: Christianity’s Self-inflicted Wound Barton W. Stone John 5:26 Lee Irons, “The Eternal Generation of the Son“ Deuteronomy 29:29 non-biblical ancient writings mentioned 1 Enoch The Apocalypse of Abraham Matthew 9:1-8 John 14:13-14 1 Corinthians 8 Colossians 1 Hebrews 1 J.A.T. Robinson, Redating the New Testament Acts 17:29-31 Simon Gathercole, The Preexistent Son: Recovering the Christologies of Matthew, Mark, and Luke Isaiah 44:24 & Hebrews 1 Exodus 3 & Acts 7:30-34 Matthew 8:5-13 & Luke 7:1-10 monogenes dueling banjos John 8:24 This week’s thinking music is “Worky Worky” by Andy G. Cohen. The post podcast 118 – The Son of God 2 – Mr. Danny Andre Dixon’s “Arian” view of Jesus appeared first on Trinities » Podcast Feed.
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