Episode 051: Interview with Or Koren
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Pruébalo GratisSurrendering to the source. Or Koren discusses how the Quantum Paradigm has helped shape his practice of Quantum Being Healing Surrendering to the source. Or Koren discusses how the Quantum Paradigm has helped shape his practice of Quantum Being Healing. DOWNLOAD TRANSCRIPT Podcast Highlights 0:41 - Introduction to Quantum Entanglement4:08 - Or Koren talks about his beginnings and experiences6:38 - Main things learned in the Monastery 8:22 - Essence of Living 10:23 - Or Koren’s Chinese Medical Field 12:17 - Exploring Inner Heart14:25 - Beginning of Quantum Being18:50 - Learning in a specific way21:16 - Opening oneself to the world24:29 - Foundations and Understanding of Theta Healing28:05 - Foundations of Quantum Being31:28 - Quantum Being Mechanism PaulHey guys! Welcome back to My Wellness Wishlist, this is your host Paul, Pauly, Pauly G., call me what you will I will answer. Today’s wellness titbit is surrounding quantum physics. I’ve had a few around this topic because it is a particularly interesting one for myself and many others. I’ve been a long time student of Quantum University studying holistic health within the quantum paradigm and there’s a particular theory called quantum entanglement that is so cool it blew my hair right back when I first heard it. Some people think it’s a little bit intimidating or scary, Albert Einstein himself when discovering different aspects of quantum physics could not really come to terms with the idée of quantum entanglement he actually refer to it as spooky action at a distance. So, essentially quantum entanglement suggests that acting on a particle can instantly influence a particle far away something that is often described as theoretical teleportation there are being countless experiments done on this theory and at a very, very small level quantum entanglement seems to have a very strong basis. Our guest on the show today is a fellow by the name of Or Koren, he’s an Israeli man that I had a privilege of seeing in Melbourne a couple of years back and he spoke about some wonderful things around the quantum paradigm. He discusses his particular type of modality, which is quantum being healing, which can be quite powerful. He explains it like this, everything according to quantum mechanics when broken down to its smallest form is energy luck and luck. So, anything that is actually bugging you with your stuck in a rut whatever may be on your mind when broken down to its most basic form is just energy. It’s a wave format and if you can allow it to become that wave then you’re opening yourself up to infinite possibilities. This is how Or Koren really facilitates his healing mechanism. Guys I want you to sit back and enjoy this interview and also I would like to just pat myself in the back and acknowledge that this is the 50th episode that’s a bit of a milestone for myself I think it’s so important to acknowledge these things there’s going to be many more milestones to come on the show but you guys are just as responsible if not more responsible for making this the show that it is so thank you for being a part of it and I hope we just rise to bigger and better things. I couldn’t think of a more appropriate guest to have on our show than Or Koren he’s a gentle big soul with an enormous heart and he has so much wisdom to be able to share with us so sit back and enjoy. Or “a chi” how are you? OrWell, I’m really good in a beautiful time in my life extending my inner boundaries and going in my own research and sharing it with beautiful people through my courses and workshops, yes it’s a beautiful time.PaulAmazing, look let’s start at the beginning and let’s see what it is that you’ve been doing with yourself. I have an insight into where you’ve been and what you’ve been doing, I had the privilege of seeing you in person when you were in Australia 2 years ago and you were inspiring so many in person about your experiences and the craft in which you actually help each other and help people around the world. Let’s start right at the beginning and take a look at what experiences you had to be able to feed your mind and your body and your heart with all these incredible things.OrOkay, well, I was in, in. When I was young and had been sent to, my parents sent me to learn karate to learn martial arts because it was very hard for me to sit on my ass and learn in school and maybe that was the beginning in a way and I found myself going into this magic world of breathing movements and learning how to communicate in a deeper way with my body and when I was 20, 21 years old I went to china and then I found that there is a dream in my heart and I really want to fulfil it and when I went to china I thought I’m just going to travel to see some beautiful special place but then I understood it actually I have a dream to live in a monastery in a kung fu monastery. I have a dream to live the ancient chinese style of healthy life, of consciousness life and that’s how I found myself in living in a monastery near the Tibetan border and no electricity just drinking the water from the river and practicing kung fu most of the day, meditating. PaulWhat were the main things you learned living in that monastery, you said you spent 12 months there OrYesPaulWhat were the main kind of life lessons that you took away form that experience?OrYes I think for me, I found the simplicity; I found the simplicity of, listen to the nature and feel in the body. The body is so alive, you know, when there is no electricity and at 9 o’ clock it’s already totally dark you’re just going to sleep and the body really become part of the cycle of the nature and you feel so vitality and I remember that when I went out even though I’ve learned so many things there like martial arts and healing techniques and chi gong but the essence of being part of nature this is something that I took with me maybe the deepest thing that still resonate and vibrate in myself until today.PaulWell, I suppose that very essence can be a filter in which you see everything else in life, if weOrYes that’s for surePaulIf we acknowledge that we are part of a greater being that is nature, or gaya or earth or whatever you want to refer to it as we see, there’s a greater equation than just individual lemmings walking around from a 9 to 5 job OrYes that’s for sure and well you know I will just jump straight into the essence of my aim of my living maybe it sounds a little bit dramatic but I really feel today that the core of our let’s say suffering as a human being it’s because we forgot the essence of unity and not by understanding it because each one can buy a book a spiritual book and read and learn that we are all one and everything is love but this is still mental you know just mental understanding and we must find a way to bring it from the head into the heart and only one we experience it directly and authentically its become part of our life and I feel that today part of my goal and my passion is to bring the tov, to help people of course first of all it’s myself. How to take this understanding this big understanding and allow it to go into my heart and to rest as deep as I can contain it and then to live from this for my core of being and I really felt that the seat for that was plant in that monastery.PaulThat’s nice. So, when you were on your early 20’s you left the monastery and you decided to study chinese medicine and expand your mental knowledge OrYesPaulTell us a little bit about that experience. What did you tend to specialize in the chinese medical field? OrOkay. So, first of all after 12 years I felt that I missed something even though I was really connected to nature I felt that I missed. I’m connecting with my body but not in all levels and I felt that I want to understand more, what is this body? And then I went to learn chinese medicine and I learned 5 years chinese medicine, herbs, acupuncture, healing modalities of touch then shiatsu and I really felt that I want to entangle the rhythm of the body with the wisdom of the soul and that was a very beautiful beginning of a new process of understanding and working with the body and after 5 or 6 years a new door was opened and it was the emotional body that kind of call me from some very sweet place in my heart and told me “hey if you really want to be happy it’s not only about mastering your body and understanding more, you really need to jump into your heart and see all the memory that still waiting for you to actually just to meet them and feel them in order to allow them to release and heal” and that was in a way it was the beginning of a new process in this endless process of getting to know yourself better. PaulBeautiful. So, what help you? What came up to you to help health and assist you explore your inner heart? Did you have any particular methods that assisted you in exploring this? OrWell at that time I used to practice yoga everyday and I found myself in a retreat in Greece, actually my teacher is from Australia his name is Gram Northsville he’s a very special teacher and I saw people come to him after the class and he used to give them a hug and they used to start to cry and I said wow it feels like I can learn yoga from this guy but maybe I can learn something more than just yoga and during one of the yoga practice my body start to vibrate without my permission and it’s look like someone starts to guide me from the inside and I cried for almost an hour and my body start to shake and vibrate and many things released from the, I can say from my subconscious without even, without going through my conscious and I felt wow there is a door here, there is a door here for a deeper way to work with the body and with the wide consciousness in my body and I want to explore it as deep as I can because I felt wow this is the key, this is the key for happiness, to let something that is bigger or I don’t know what’s that called, profound method in your system to guide you. PaulSo, where to from there if you understand or if you’ve embodied in your experience something as profound as that. How do you take that next step into learning? OrThat’s a beautiful question. First of all I acknowledge the fact that I don’t know so many things that I have always so much knowledge I can know about 20 years working with the body learning martial arts and then 5 years learning chinese medicine, there is lot of knowledge in chinese medicine, amazing knowledge. The first step it was to admit that even though I know so much, I don’t know so much, actually. There is many things that I don’t know and there is rhythm in my body that if I really want to work with it I must go to zero point and be very humble when I listen to my heart not coming with this known position and at that time I found a beautiful healer and she guide me through, maybe you’ve heard of this reversing technique, it’s a cycle breathing technique. It’s just breathing and your body starts to shake and things start to lean and move out and from the core of your being and I find it this is a very good tool for me because it bypass my mind and go straight to my subconscious and I remember that where it really opened me to communicate again and again from this shaken experience with my body and it was in a time that also that the healing came into my life and learn this beautiful method of how to slow down my brain waves and how to go in a deeper level and communicate through that theta brainwaves with my subconscious so it was of a kind of a feel tool that came together and start to dance in my own body, in my heart. I still didn’t even understand what’s really going on but I just, again and again jump into the water and experience my inner wisdom guiding me and I can say in a way maybe that was beginning of another beginning in this process.PaulWould you say that was the beginning of Quantum Being as we know it? OrYes, I feel that when you ask it, first thing that my body was saying was yes, yes it was the beginning because it was a very deep connection. It was the first time that I felt this connection between the heart, body and consciousness. Not only by talking I realy felt my body like really reacting and I really felt my motion like flowing and after it’s like meeting a deep pain there is suddenly place for love and and for kind of a deep peacefulness that just came from nowhere and also my conscious know how to do the connection in the end of each process they really authentically did the connection of “ah that came from a childhood and now I just let it go” and that came from another place and now I have the capacity to contain it and it felt really whole, really whole when the heart, body and consciousness just work together.PaulThat’s nice. You know we live in a paradigm where learning is taught in a very, very specific way and manner and it is usually intellectually through the mind and through the brain. Have you come up with challenges being able to teach your particular method but by experiencing and embodying it because being a product of this culture everybody is used to learning in a very specific way. OrYes, 2 things. The first is when people like really come from the mind it’s because they have pain, they hold in pain, pain from the past, pain from any kind of experience that the cell in the memory are holding and even without noticing that they really want to avoid it. They’re afraid of meeting it because maybe they still don’t have the tools to meet it. So, if someone comes to me and he’s really kind of left brain minded, first of all I really feel compassion and understanding that it’s just because of pain it’s not because there’s something wrong with that person. Ah ok there is pain and actually without knowing that he’s asking me for help, to go and meet his pain in a new language, a language of will it help this pain to and transform into a new and vibration, which we can call it love, so, this is the first thing. And the 2nd thing it just have to find the key, the door to the heart of the person because all of us, all that we really want is that people will love us just as we are right now even if I am left brain person and I’m like really rational my inner channel really wants the world outside to love me as I am. So, the first thing is just to fill the love to the inner child of the person.PaulFor somebody who is particularly left minded and whose not used to exploring that side of things. How would somebody like yourself guide that person to open themselves up to this world. OrYes, that’s a beautiful question and I have a very good answer for you but before I will answer I will just say authentically that I don’t know. Each time I need to listen to connect to this person and to feel what is the authentic key for that person to go from his bring to his heart. So, this is the first question, sorry the first answer that I don’t know actually but the 2nd answer for your question is by giving a very simple example, now I will ask you this question, this is the example that I use. When you’re standing in front of your fridge and you have the desire to eat something and many times we all have the desire to eat something sweet and sometimes we have the desire to eat something salty and I can come at this present moment in this moment just before you open the fridge and take something and I can ask you, “oh how do you know that you have the desire to eat something salty?” or maybe “how do you know that you have a desire to eat something sweet?” And please just be present for a moment in your body and show with me what is the information that’s running from your throat, from the tongue, from your belly that eventually you said I want something sweet or I want something salty and each person that I’m asking with that I’m asking that question really find himself from here going down listen to his belly and say hmm wow it’s really interesting because I really feel the information in the body that telling me or you want something sweet now. For many of us it’s really hard to bring it into words. I can say I feel something here but it’s hard to explain it but when you share it with me I’m telling them wow look this is already a very big step because you didn’t explain it you were brave enough just to share with me that you feel it and this is a very big step to communicate with your heart not going into trying to explain it but just align yourself to experience it and this simple funny question many times it’s a beautiful key to open the door for the body consciousness. PaulIt’s a very beautiful example and excellent leeway to allow people to just relinquish their brain for just a moment that’s really nice. Could you tell us just a little bit about the foundations and understandings of what’s theta healing is. You mentioned that a little bit earlier. I myself is a practitioner of theta healing but I would love for you to explain to the rest of the people about what it is. OrOkay, so generally in one sentence the idea behind any modality is to how to connect to your authentic self on a better way? How to be closer to the wisdom of your body, the wisdom of your soul and one of the tools of that theta healing use is by taking down, taking slow your brain waves, taking your brain waves from a beta brain waves the state of mind, which is way that you just live your daily life and your consciousness about anything and taking it down into the theta brain waves, which are the brain waves that we use naturally when we’re dreaming when we work with our sub consciousness and when we learn to slow down our brain waves a new information from the depths of our conscience, from the depths of our body becomes available for us and then there is a whole modality that help us to work from the state of mind and when I work and taught that the healing for many years I found that I can go even and it’s not about going deeper but I can really jump into this idea of working with the theta brain wave and allows me of just to be present as deep as I can with my own traumas with my own beliefs with my own past experience and just by bringing my pure conscious to the present moment new information from my sub conscious start to pop up and flow to my reality from the cell memory into the surface and when I learn to listen to it I can also allow my inner wisdom to guide me and to heal any kind of pain, any kind of trauma that’s still sitting in the memory of myself in the self memory and transform authentically from the core of my being.PaulSo, many of us don’t allow that part of our being to become alive perhaps when we’re very young we had that child like curiosity and allowed our bodies to take a whole of what it is that we were doing but we are taught over the years to be very rational and to allow this brain to drive and be the CEO and then eventually the monkey mind takes a whole and you start jumping from one thought to another without just simply allowing life to be for a moment OrYes that’s right and it’s because there is always balance between ying and yang in the body between masculine and feminine qualities in our body it doesn’t matter if you’re a man or a woman in a man’s body or a woman’s body we all got a feminine and a masculine essence inside of us and when we’re trying to and be very rational kind of be very masculine the feminine part, which is quite chaotic and unknown will jump from the inside so in a way in theta healing and for sure in quantum being, which is eventually just name a deeper invitation to meet the unknown to meet the feminine part in our soul because when we got to through the body to connect to our feminine side is feminine part our masculine becomes much more balanced and some of it might be a big narrow, left hand, processed mind, the masculine become like a mature guide that can just give the direction to go through your life mission to go through your past. It’s kind of I like to say that it’s kind of it’s a way to connect you to your inner GPS and maybe this is the key, this is the secret. How to work with the feminine essence the way to connect us to the sub conscious, which is a bit chaotic but actually got all the wisdom and all the tools to help us go through any kind of challenge in our life journey.PaulThat’s interesting. So, the essence in the foundations of Quantum Being is being able to connect to that I don’t want to say simply just feminine energy but allowing you to be connected to all energies holistically within you.OrYes to connect on a, how can I say, holy way in a holistic way? Through the feminine and the masculine essence inside of us to the ying and yang both together because if I’m just left brain type my life will be very boring and if I’m just right brain type my life will be very chaotic maybe I can be very spiritual but I want to have the tools to bring it down to earth and in our time the deep invitation is to bring those both qualities and learn how to work with both of them in a present moment and in authentic way.PaulAmazing! Or can you give me an example of the way you would guide somebody through the quantum being mechanism, you can use me for an example if you’d like OrOkay, beautiful, yes for sure and one of the way that I like to start sessions is to ask people. Actually I’m doing it many times well in the beginning of the workshops. I’m inviting people to sit in first and to ask one each other one simple question. How do you know that you have a body? How do you know that you have a body? And again it’s a bit like how do you know if you want sweet or salty? It’s naturally bring you from the brain down the throat into the body and you start to listen to this amazing organism that your soul is sitting in and you find something new. What? I won’t tell you, you have to do it on your own. Search now Paul, I will ask you, Paul how do you know that you have a body? I’m just invite you and the next few, just few moments just few seconds and just share with me how did you know that you have a body? PaulBecause I can feel it OrOkay you can feel, what do you feel? PaulI feel my heart beatingOrOkay you feel your heart beating PaulI can see itOrYes you can see it PaulThat’s been what I’m told that I have a body so by the people around me OrCan you feel gravity?PaulYes OrYes, beautiful. So, one of the way to go into the body and invoke with the sub consciousness it’s by getting to know that your heart communicates all the time with the heart of earth with the core of earth by and through gravity and the more we release and listen to our body the more sub conscious pop up sensations and feelings to our consciousness and pleasant one and unpleasant one and it will allow us to go into the memory that is sitting in our selves and waiting for us to reveal them to remaking them. So, this is a key in the use of the beginning of the classes just ask the simple question. How do you know that you have a body? And the 2nd question is when do you feel your body, when do you feel emotions and when do you feel sensations, when do you know that it’s like warm, cold, tickling, pain and when do you know when it’s sadness, happiness, anger, loneliness, whatever and then we start to identify the energy. Some energy it’s emotion, some energy it’s sensation and we learn how to identify these qualities and like that stay by sip tape I’m guiding the people into the core of their being so right now you just shared me that you felt gravity, you feel your heartbeat. I can maybe ask you, when you feel your heartbeat, which kind of sensation do you feel there? Is it warm, is it cold? PaulI feel a certain warmth in my chest, it is resonating throughout my body OrBeautiful. Is there any kind of emotion right now that running with this kind of information PaulIt’s difficult for me to put into words thoughOrYes it’s that not obvious PaulNoOrYesPaulI have a like you said I feel a sensation but I can decipher that it’s not like pain or something like that to identify what emotion I am embodying is a very difficult thing to verbalize.OrYes, that’s right and this is the part of the thing that we are practicing and learning, the language of the heart and also maybe the people that listen to us now they can do it simultaneously with us because when I ask you this question what I felt with this weirdest warm feeling in your heart there is kind of a gentle feeling that’s rising, maybe it’s kind of a shyness, you know just a tiny gentle softly shyness because you are the one asking me question and then suddenly we switch roles and I was the one that ask you questions and sub consciously it just put you in a new position. So, for just a tiny moment it was kind of a switch shyness and it’s so beautiful to acknowledge that the switch shyness and just by seeing that I felt suddenly more close to you because you allowed yourself even though you didn’t say shyness or maybe something else we just say I feel something warm in my chest it’s hard for me to put into words but you were kind of communicating with yourself, your intimacy become deeper and that’s the moment that I felt closer to you and maybe if I’m taking it to life and I found that when we become more intimate with our self it’s helping us to become closer to our environment and it helps our environment within the people around us to communicate with us and they even don’t know why but it’s just because we start to use the heart language PaulYou know, the word vulnerability comes OrVulnerability, beautifulPaulto my mind and you know there are so many times where people allow themselves to become vulnerable that barrier between them and somebody else just gets dissolved and broken down so much and that’s a beautiful example of how that may occur OrThank you brother, vulnerability this is the word, so beautiful. This is the key for connection that’s right. PaulReally, really beautiful stuff. Or I’m such a fan of your work I think what you’re doing is truly, truly excellent stuff and it’s changing the world and I think that whatever you’re doing you should keep on doing it. Do you have any resources that we can reach you on and do you have any online resources. Are you doing any workshops coming up? OrActually, I’m just kind of renewing my website and when I will renew it, it will build a whole lot of information that will be in english. So, orkoren.com this is my website and soon there’s going to be a lot of information also in english in that website and we will be more than welcome to read it and experience it on your own body and on your own authentic process and I just wrote a book soon also it’s going to be translated to english, a beautiful book I call it Quantum Being, the universal language of the heart it’s all about that beautiful amazing healing stories, beautiful process with me and people and went through beautiful healings that happens through and with quantum being and soon it’s going to be also in english maybe that’s it for now and I don’t know when I come back again to Australia it looks like the next time I will travel it will be to Europe and then to America PaulWe have lots of listeners on both parts of those OrOh beautifulPaulSo, if you have the dates with you, if not we’ll just direct all of our listeners to your website and they’ll be able to check that out OrYes just be in touch with me through my website I guess next time it’s going to be in brazil but it’s going to be few months from now there’s still not a particular date but yes please let’s be in touch and we’ll be more than happy to see you in one of those activitiesPaulThat will be lovely and thank you once again all those beautiful words OrPaul thank you so much for inviting me and invite me to open my heart and sharing something that is really, really dear and authentic in my process so thank you for that and I love you brother.PaulThank You Or you really have a way about you. That’s me for yet another week as you know I’ve been keeping up my yoga and it is just going splendidly keep an eye out on social media for my updates in that realm. Until next week take it easy and be kind to each other.
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